posted 03-24-2001 16:21            

Of course I would have. And no, she was not. She had a blister on her lower lip that stuck out like some rank, rotting onion blossom. She also had what is possibly the world's flattest ass and chest. Her hair was nice though. Not nice enough to make up for all her other faults, but nice.

Sorry, no pictures. I left my PenIs SpyCam at home.
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Dad, I'm sorry I shot you.

posted 04-01-2001 17:28            

Guys, for future reference:

Do not walk up to a girl sitting alone, gape into her face for a while and then blurt out "DAAAAMN girl, you got cat eyes!" Looking to your mentally defective friend for approval does not help the situation either.

Do not follow her onto the bus, pin her against the window and tell her that you know how to treat a woman right. This joker tried to tell me to break up with my boyfriend since he wanted to make love to me and shower me with rose petals.

If I ever have to ride the public transit of the damned again, I'm going to carry mace, pepper spray and a big stick.

posted 04-02-2001 01:55            

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Originally posted by Bex:
If I ever have to ride the public transit of the damned again, I'm going to carry mace, pepper spray and a big stick.

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I hear a stun-gun to the nuts works pretty well too.

posted 04-02-2001 16:30            

It's interesting. I've heard that some of the popular places to hit guys (face, nuts, solar plexus) tend to piss them off more than disable them.

posted 04-02-2001 19:30            

A hard strike to the solar plexus is a much better bet if you're strong enough to make it stick - but if you're talking about somebody double your size and heavily muscled, it's still a desperation move.

A tag to the nuts is just as much of a crapshoot as a pressure point attack - an awful lot of guys' immediate response to getting tagged in the nuts is a MAJOR adrenaline boost. If they don't use that adrenaline boost to go into enraged ass-stomping mode, then they fold in horrible pain... otherwise they barely even feel it until they get done stomping you.

If you really want to learn how to do quick disabling moves on people considerably larger than yourself, I recommend aikido - it's a discipline that specializes in wristlocks and other techniques that are minimally affected by size and musculature discrepancies. If your technique is perfect, it doesn't matter HOW big the guy is or HOW little you are - he's going DOWN, and doing it HARD.

posted 04-02-2001 19:46            

I learned a great move which I think is actually from aikido but they taught it as a "self-defense" move when I was learning tae-kwon-do. Drop down, grab your opponents ankle and push with your other hand really hard right above his knee. He'll either hyperextend his knee or go down hard. It doesn't really disable him but it'll get him down where you can get at him better.

posted 04-02-2001 20:20            

Punching to the throat can be disabling, but it has to be hard. Up to a certain point it will leave a bruise, and make it uncomfortable to swallow for a few days, and past that point it will cave in the windpipe and cause death if the victim doesn't get a tracheotomy pretty soon, or so I hear.

But this has the same problem as the nut-shot, and the pressure points, and the knee, and so on. You might be able to do it to someone who is unprepared, if they don't flinch much, but a normal-sized woman has no chance of making this stuff work against a normal sized man who is ready for an attack. The throat, for example, has to be dead on- if he half turns, then it's no good. That's why all this stuff is bad for the "I feel funny situations", although maybe good for the "I'm gonna die if I don't do something right now" sort of situation. In which case, I think you'd be better off going for eyes.

On the other hand, those piercing screaming alarms are probably better, inmho.

posted 04-02-2001 20:21            

OH MY GOD! I almost fell off my chair laughing.

I particularly loved the evil grin on the assistant's face.

I need to get me one of those. Public transit here I come!

posted 04-02-2001 20:33            

Also, the ankle trick only works on a very startled opponent - if they pick that leg up when you grab at it, they can pretty easily boot you in the head. For that matter, again, somebody with a lot of size and strength on you can pretty much ignore you trying to do brute-force manipulations of his leg with your hands.

You'd be better off trying an instep stomp, an upward palm heel to the chin while your weight is still on the instep, followed by a quick eye-jab with stiffened fingers, followed by running like hell. Hopefully, the instep stomp will give him a nasty limp, the palm heel will daze him a bit, and the eye jab will make him too blinded and dizzy to do much chasing... and even if you only hit with ONE technique out of the combo, you've given him SOMETHING to slow him down while you get the fuck out of dodge.

A fast kick to the spot just under the patella (knobby part of the knee) followed by running like hell is also a good bet - hopefully you'll give him a nasty enough limp that he won't be fast enough to run you down. This one's considerably better at slowing the opponent than the instep stomp, but it really doesn't lend itself to combos that well and if you do it as a solo move, you're putting all your eggs in one basket - better make it count.

Alternately, if you've got the option (and willingness) to go for the "fake face caress" mentioned earlier in reference to pressure points, a better bet would be a fake caress terminating in a vicious eye gouge... followed up with the patella kick mentioned above if you feel up to it, and then by immediately running like hell. Of course, if you're not willing to risk a throat punch, you're probably not willing to do a hard eye gouge either.

I'll say it one more time though - if you seriously want to learn usable techniques for reliably disabling a much larger opponent, investigate aikido. You can disable 300 pound powerlifter types with aikido wristlocks, - believe me, you know it when you execute a technique on somebody perfectly, because you can feel the fact that they're utterly controlled through the technique.

The two major weak points of aikido are:

1. It does require a fairly long training period to become truly effective with pure aikido techniques - though your sensei can teach you "street defense" tricks which are sometimes less effective, but easier to use while you learn the pure forms.

posted 04-02-2001 20:35            

If you decide on mace, pepper spray, or any other "non-lethal" device, I have one piece of advice - take a quiet afternoon and a good friend and have her spray you with the shit.

Seriously.

That stuff varies wildly with its effectiveness, and you need to be aware of exactly what's going to happen when you use it, and how disabling - or NOT disabling - it really is.

Seeing what happens to your friend if she's not careful with it may be informative, too - it's quite possible for the sprayer to get enough of a whiff of that stuff to make running difficult for them too, in which case you're stuck gasping and wheezing your way away from somebody who's PISSED.

If you're unwilling to have a friend mace you in approximately the way you'd expect to wind up macing an assailant - which is still my recommendation - you'd better at least practice macing targets. Again, you want to know what happens when you pull that trigger. Are you gonna suck down a lungful of backspray? What's the range? I'd also strongly recommend at LEAST spraying a square of cloth and inhaling near the cloth, if you're unwilling to be maced yourself.

Keep in mind if you use that stuff, you do NOT mace and stand around - you mace and fucking RUN.

But you know what the best personal defense device is? It's not a stun gun, it's not mace, it's not pepper spray, it's not a whistle. It's a cell phone with "911" on the speed dial. The limitation is that you still have to be able to GET to the sucker if somebody's menacing you - but if you CAN get to it, an open line to the po-lice is going to frighten the average assailant off a LOT quicker than mace or pepper spray or a stun gun.

:: whip cell out of pocket, hit speed dial ::

"Hello, 911? I'm at (street name) near {landmark) and I'm (being attacked) / (afraid I'm about to be attacked). Please send assistance immediately."

posted 04-02-2001 20:47            

I wear steel toed boots for my job, so I could do some damage to a patella or two if need be. I remember how to kick properly too.

posted 04-02-2001 22:40            

also cupping the hands *slightly* and smashing in the ears is very affective if you have the capability it will stop him

pepper spray is a weary thing because if the person is high or drunk or anything it wont effect him, my dad's a cop and i've seen a drunk gay take a full bottle in the face and it was like nothing to him.
also bigger men are less suseptable.

one thing i know sometimes works depending on how big the guy is and the surcomstances is that if he grabs your wrist,
swing your hand clockwise around his and over to grab his wrist too, sorta like a roman grip and then slam up on his extended elbow as hard as you can (hit it the way it doesnt bend)
he will try to stop your hand from twisting therefore stop paying attention to your other arm and also putting his own arm more extended ect

just idea's

posted 04-03-2001 01:10            

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pepper spray is a weary thing... my dad's a cop and i've seen a drunk gay take a full bottle in the face and it was like nothing to him.

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