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psyci
Gr4ph1c4l P3nn3r
posted 04-28-2001 21:29     Click Here to See the Profile for psyci     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Okay, here's the idea:

Like it?

Oh, another idea... check out www.desktopian.org, and look at the top right for five different colored squares. Click on them, the site color changes. If you don't like the orange of this layout... it'd be pretty easy to set that situation up with it.

Comments welcome.

[edit - screwed up the url]

[This message has been edited by psyci (edited 04-29-2001).]

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CapnBiggles
clmesdad. stopplease sirmyass is bleeding
posted 04-28-2001 23:41     Click Here to See the Profile for CapnBiggles     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i like te design myself, but i checked the site you indicated and didn't find anything. Granted, I'm severely drunk right now, but I'm sure its empty except for some kind of definition thing.

- biggles

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eod
TREAT MERIGHT!
posted 04-29-2001 02:25     Click Here to See the Profile for eod   Click Here to Email eod     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
with ya biggles doesn't seem like much content.. That would be a total facelift for pen.

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psyci
Gr4ph1c4l P3nn3r
posted 04-29-2001 03:32     Click Here to See the Profile for psyci     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Whoops, screwed up the url...
http://www.desktopian.org/

A "Whoops he must have meant this URL" protocall should be installed somewhere.

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Bex
Delicate Flower
posted 04-29-2001 10:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Bex   Click Here to Email Bex     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Where are you hiding the links to the message board, etc in that design?

Just my two cents but I LOVED the design with the round list of links (Articles, Cams, etc). But this is pretty snazzy too. Except for the orange.

Are you eliminating the little box of random text under the current logo?

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psyci
Gr4ph1c4l P3nn3r
posted 04-29-2001 12:29     Click Here to See the Profile for psyci     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Okay, some explanation:

The Random Slogans box is the "our members have members" part. It starts off as "our members have members" every time, similar to the way it starts with the outdated staff names now, and switches over to the random captions after a few seconds. So they're still there.

The Messageboard link would be directly on the top menu bar - where "news archives articles" is now. The table of contents isn't finalized yet, I'll leave that to eod and crew.

All the other things - the BBS link, TFC server, stuff like that, would ALL be on pages other than the main page, and would be accessable through the main table of contents. This is to reduce clutter, since there's no way to add them all in in the main menu without it becoming super-cluttered.

To Bex, I loved the Rotator links thing too. It's very tall, though, and I don't think I can make it much shorter and still look good. I'll make an effort though.

The orange, we could make that dynamically changeable for user preference, if we really wanted. (the desktopian.org idea)

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Jimbo
1 dr3w j00 4 p1ggy!

posted 04-29-2001 12:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
1. The rotator thing was a neat gadget, but it was a... gadget. Totally agree that it was way too tall and would burn too much screen real estate.

2. Placing links on pages other than the main page = DRASTICALLY reduced traffic through those links. As long as the codebase was SUPER lean, an automagically expanding menu in DHTML or Flash would be okay - but if you pull stuff of the index page, trust me the traffic to them is going to PLUMMET.

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Bex
Delicate Flower
posted 04-29-2001 15:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Bex   Click Here to Email Bex     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Could you make the rotator a horizontal semicircle instead of a circle and possibly still have it work but be shorter? Perhaps use some sort of icon instead of the name of the link to save space until it was selected and then pop up the name? I liked the layout where the link of the day, etc was in that design too.

Sorry if I'm reinventing the wheel here. I'm not sure exactly what stages of "that will never work" you've gone through already.

-Bex

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cyd
Sheep sex0r
posted 04-29-2001 16:01     Click Here to See the Profile for cyd   Click Here to Email cyd     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
bex, i like the cut of your jib.
your idea is splendid, too .
i think that the currently unused
top left corner real estate could
house a 90 degree arc on which
sit icons expandable to the link
name with a mouseover or somesuch.

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psyci
Gr4ph1c4l P3nn3r
posted 04-29-2001 20:13     Click Here to See the Profile for psyci     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Jimbo: good point... any linkage that's needed could be thrown on the main page or added in with DHTML menus or something... Assuming we have someone around here who can code that up (I can't), that will work well.

cydster, bexypoo, I'll see if I can do a new Rotator that wouldn't take so much room... I got a couple ideas, but I'm not sure how much they'll work. Guess I'll find out.

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nuentoter
Hey look at me I got arrested for selling warez......... SIKE!! I'm a sneaky fuck
posted 04-29-2001 20:26     Click Here to See the Profile for nuentoter   Click Here to Email nuentoter     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
goto http://www.aperfectcircle.com/
the semicircle on the top right of there is wicked cool idea
check it out ya allz

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CapnBiggles
clmesdad. stopplease sirmyass is bleeding
posted 04-29-2001 20:45     Click Here to See the Profile for CapnBiggles     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nuentoter:
goto http://www.aperfectcircle.com/
the semicircle on the top right of there is wicked cool idea
check it out ya allz

Wow, I really like that. They managed to make all that fancy-ass flash stuff look not gay. I'm impressed, and I like the concept.

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Jimbo
1 dr3w j00 4 p1ggy!

posted 04-29-2001 22:12     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. Usable, but still not obviously enough a navigation tool. I'm not a real big fan of hiding really important parts of a design in something that "looks cool" but a lot of people are likely not to realize actually serves a purpose.

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Bex
Delicate Flower
posted 04-29-2001 23:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Bex   Click Here to Email Bex     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Jimbo,

Since it's moving and has some icons on it, I tend to mouseover. The fact that it instantly pops up the name of the link upon mouseover made it obviously a nav tool to me. But then again, I have a tendency to mouseover a lot of stuff when I'm surfing. If that had words or a more obviously related icon for each link, it would make it easier to find too.

That sort of layout could still work. Either 90 degrees or 180 to save space compared to a full circle.

-Bex

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zippy
Member with a member bigger than the member with a member
posted 04-30-2001 14:42     Click Here to See the Profile for zippy   Click Here to Email zippy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
jimbo, have you ever seen a page of pr0n, errr.. i mean technical schematic thumbnails with the words "click on the images for a larger version"? there are some people soooo incredibly studid (read: arkansas) that explicit instructions on how thumbnails work is needed.

i think it's fair to say that penis readers share a certain minimum level of intelligence. a moving rotating thingy in one corner of the page that doesnt scroll off the top along with the content sort of stands out. investigation is natural, and then people know it's a nav tool.

maybe we should conduct a study. set up a few test websites with various methods of navigating through the content. then send people the url only with instructions to look at different parts of the site and tell you what the experience was like. i'm curious to see how many people would really think about clicking on that rotating orb on aperfectcircle.com if someone hadnt said "check out the circle"

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psyci
Gr4ph1c4l P3nn3r
posted 04-30-2001 19:36     Click Here to See the Profile for psyci     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
*fwoosh*

Did you guys just hear that flamewar start?

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nuentoter
Hey look at me I got arrested for selling warez......... SIKE!! I'm a sneaky fuck
posted 04-30-2001 20:36     Click Here to See the Profile for nuentoter   Click Here to Email nuentoter     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
*nuentoter puts on over mitts*

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Jimbo
1 dr3w j00 4 p1ggy!

posted 04-30-2001 20:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
:: nods :: I heard it too.

Zippy, in principle I agree with you - but you're presuming a pre-existing level of interest in the site, for one thing. I dunno, maybe I'm just being anal, but I think often enough without that pre-existing level of interest people tend to just disappear instead of bothering... whereas if the navigability is easier, they may stick around, dig deeper, and get interested.

Besides, you want to make sure even the biggest retards around can find the door games - retards get ass whoopings.

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hussain
S4d4m Hussain, 1st General, IRC & Script Kiddie Division
posted 05-01-2001 00:53     Click Here to See the Profile for hussain   Click Here to Email hussain     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Martha! Where's my asbestos suit and torch? I got some grillin to do!

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zippy
Member with a member bigger than the member with a member
posted 05-01-2001 01:07     Click Here to See the Profile for zippy   Click Here to Email zippy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
you're right jimbo. how's that for a flamewar, eh? canadians cant start flamewars. it's against the laws of nature. we're too nice.

there's something to be said for simple, easy, and efficient. a circle thing is kinda gadgety, but it's also just... cool. i wanna be cool dammit!

but simple elegance is nice too. i think it's kind of like comparing a unix shell to the windows UI (not in terms of user friendliness, mind you, but rather in terms of simple elegance versus gadgets).

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Clme
cake fiend
posted 05-01-2001 01:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Clme   Click Here to Email Clme     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
So... you cant just replace the cool little characters that serve as buttons with words?

You know.. like News, Articles, Cams... I dont know.

perhaps you could also generate a pull down menu from each word. Then you would still have the little cool thing in the corner AND full site navigation.

The Message board must be main page though

-Chris

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psyci
Gr4ph1c4l P3nn3r
posted 05-02-2001 12:09     Click Here to See the Profile for psyci     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My computer with photoshop is currently without an internet connection, and awaiting a new video card... but I'll we workin' on it.

When it doesn't interfere with cartoon network, that is.

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