posted 05-01-2001 02:43         

quote:

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Originally posted by Jimbo:
Thank you, thank you!

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oh, and i wouldn't thank me just yet, jimbo. if you read that whole thing carefully you'll realize that i just called you a java monkey in so many words.

posted 05-01-2001 11:09            

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clem: i can understand your difficulty
in understanding that sentence. there
are a lot of things being said there, and
quite minimally at that. i do, however,
often include links that flesh out my post,
and are interesting both within and without
the context of my post.
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admitting that the original sentence in
question wasn't well worded.
it was jimb0 who began saying i was having
internal dialogues, writing tortured syntax,
and claiming i was more enlightened than
other people. so, it was jimb0 to whom i
responded in kind.

and jimb0, i just don't understand you. i
made a post about how i was really depressed,
but that the culmination of my life's work
was helping me to get by because i felt like
i was making a difference in the world, and
you responded by attacking my grammar and
accusing me of pretention. real nice.

so, sara, i weakly tried to cover the fact that
i was hurt by such callousness by saying that i
didn't care.

posted 05-01-2001 12:43            

quote:

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Originally posted by cyd:
and jimb0, i just don't understand you. i
made a post about how i was really depressed,
but that the culmination of my life's work
was helping me to get by because i felt like
i was making a difference in the world, and
you responded by attacking my grammar and
accusing me of pretention. real nice.

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What happened to "take this to email if you have anything else to say about it?" C'mon man, I already let you have the last word, do you need the last word twice?

Since you brought it back up - again - here we go:

quote:

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Cyd's 1st reply:
[my post] is a play on words of...

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quote:

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Cyd's 2nd reply an hour later:
... sorry you had a tough time understanding my post, jimbo, but it wasn't the fault of my grammar...

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quote:

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Cyd's 3rd reply, after another 2 hours of stewing:
... it is not, as your blunted slight would indicate I believe, that you are less "enlightened" than me or than anyone else... for those too lazy to click on the link [dorian gray in a nutshell for all you uneducated barbarians out there]

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With no input from anyone else, you progressed from a civil explanation of wtf you were talking about to an irritable defense of your grammar to a purely disdainful statement that yes, you do in fact think you know more than the rest of us, and also think we're too lazy even to gobble up the nuggets of wisdom you drop via link.

On the other hand, this "stewing in your own juices" bit seems to be a significant part of your behavioral makeup, since you're doing it AGAIN now bringing this shit back up, even after I let you get the last word with that "let's take it to email" bitch-move last night.

Anyway.

You need to re-read what Sara wrote above, 'cause she's droppin' considerably more wisdom than you have so far. Yes, my initial post was mildly irritable, irritATING even - or "ill-toned" as she put it. It was, however, also a pretty simple and functional request for clarification. You did a dandy job of answering it in your first reply. If you'd left it at that, everything woulda been all hunky dory, and you'd have come out on top - J1mb0 the irritable grouchy fuck got the placid, serene reply from the estimable Cyd.

But no, you had to go stew about it and keep piling crap on it, so that by the time I saw it, I got the results of three hours of festering Cydness.

Frankly man, your patrician attitude SUCKS. When somebody - me - complained about how hard your shit was to read, you IMMEDIATELY assumed that the problem couldn't possibly be your prose, it MUST be the complainer's lack of grounding in classic literature - because just explaining the allusion wasn't enough, no, you had to go and directly state that your grammar wasn't the problem, and call the people reading your posts "too lazy to click a link" at the same time.

The whole point of my second reply - which was characterized by one person who shall remain nameless as "not much of a smackdown" - was to get the point across that no, the problem was NOT lack of being well-read, the problem was that DESPITE having read the works you're alluding to, your shit STILL isn't clear.

On a final and particularly unfriendly note, here's a line-by-line explanation of my references to Sisyphus in regards to attempting to communicate with you:

posted 05-01-2001 13:47            

I also don't think I'd call Cyd an "art fag"--I would think that those with a firm grasp on art would have the ability to use proper grammar and capitalization and such.

posted 05-01-2001 14:14            

The reason that I took your responses to Jimbo personally was that I pretty much agreed with a good deal of what he said.

Baldghoti:

Yes, I had the same problem the first time or two I found PenIs. I disagree with your definition of an "art-fag" though, because I believe that Cyd KNOWS proper grammar/puntuation, He just thinks that inserting carriage returns and rearranging words will express his disdain for all that is accepted and good. He is, of course, allowed that luxury....but it makes it hard as fuck to read anything he posts.

posted 05-01-2001 14:22            

there are obviously quite a few, including posters, who feel that i detract from
penismightier. fine. i don't want to
force myself on anyone. i'll leave with
no regret. it was fun.

posted 05-01-2001 14:51            

I went back to the thread that you mentioned above: http://www.penismightier.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000018.html
And did an IP check on the posts.

Some of the posts had remarkably similar IP addresses...like identical.

There were two other IP addresses besides yours... but I have a sneaking suspicion that of the 2 people that may have responded, at least one may not have been for real.

Trolling trolling trolling.... keep them doggies trolling... trolling trolling trolling... Rawhide!

posted 05-01-2001 15:57            

Oh, so he's trying to make his prose look poetic? Okay, maybe he is an art fag.

Something about him reminds me of a guy on the Uglykittens forum named Sloth. He uses very poor grammar and refuses to use punctuation, has a touch of a messiah complex (If I'm being persecuted, then I must be right), and constantly posts really low-caliber poetry.

Cyd, have you ever let a fat chick jerk you off in a clubhouse? Cause if so, A Winner Is You!

posted 05-01-2001 17:32         

it's kind of like jonkatz on slashdot (only adding the thought provoking things). despite being hated by most of the posters (a lot more than what dislikes cyd here) and knowing absolutely nothing about what he's talking about (cyd doesn't have that problem since it's usually us who don't know what he's talking about whether he does or not), he persists.

that, i suppose, is a worthy thing in itself. something to break up groupthink and promote new conversation. and i think cyd's "bordering on lunacy" style is better than katz's "this would be a fucking troll if he weren't serious" style any day.

posted 05-01-2001 22:32           

Cyd has the habit of making offensive comments in the interest of "being completely honest" but not being able to take any criticism himself.

I was chatting with his Ego and we compared notes. We've come to the conclusion that if we're going to be self-righteous and write such drivel, then we're up for flames. Its not like everyone has to sit back just because we're Cyd. I mean, we called you our black sheep for the love of God*

Cyds Id.

posted 05-01-2001 23:30            

it saddens me that people would read my posts without clicking the links. although i do sometimes have long discussions with myself in my head (more on this later), most of my posts are not terribly thoughtful. the meat of the post is in presenting some sort of unusual image or video to the reader (hint: that's you guys [and girls]). thus, with my posts especially, it makes sense to click the link when you get to it, because the post *is* the content.

"the medium is the message." name that canadian heritage moment and win a prize.

now, on to the grammar syntax. i've never used sql, so that didnt even occur to me. as for the comparison to java, it is techincally possible that grammar was implemented as a class, but i doubt it would turn out that way. what we are really comparing is the grammar of cyd and the grammar of yoda. thus, it makes more sense to have cyd and yoda be objects, probably of type artFag and uberJedi respectively. if cyd and yoda are part of an enumeration, it doesnt really make too much sense, because the line "grammar.cyd < grammar.yoda" does seem to imply we're comparing the grammar, not cyd and yoda themselves. we have to use some common sense when deciding what objects to build, after all. that's what good design principles are all about.

and lastly: sometimes when i take my dog for a walk, i get bored. i start talking to myself about some issue, but that gets boring too. so i prefer to envision in my head a panel of 4 distinguished people with gray hair sitting in comfortable chairs around a coffee table insulting each other while trying to look super intelectual for the tv cameras. of course, this never ever accomplishes anything, but one of the panelists usually ends up crying, which is kinda cool.

posted 05-02-2001 00:20            

Personally, my favorite type of post is still "heres a short comment, now here's some porn"

I just cant stop mid sentence and read a link. When I read a post I left click and open any link in a new window, then I read the links immediately following the completion of the post.

It could just be me that does that, of course. Perhaps I'm not the best person to be speaking for everyone.

posted 05-02-2001 00:38            

Its also different when your links are known to be interesting...as yours are.

I've never been let down by a zippy link.

posted 05-02-2001 00:59         

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Originally posted by eod:
Well zippy.. Your posts are different, people expect to find something wacky behind each one of your links and not something that further enriches your original message. Well wait.. maybe if you message is "I like weird pr0n & stuff" then your links really help you convey it.

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Well I'm relatively new to all this and after analysis of the entire thread I've come to personal observation that Jimbo is absolutely right.

posted 05-03-2001 11:19            

The general consensus was "ep-sample.avi stole my soul." Once you get to the point where you can watch ep-sample and feel no further pain, there's... there's just nothing left anymore.