posted 04-30-2001 09:24            

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all of this is well and good, and helps me to focus my energy on projects which are likely to better the collective self portrait all of us dorian gays paint of humanity; instead of focusing it on bellyaching about having not even a prospect for a girlfriend

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Okay, I'm less than enlightened here. Does that sentence mean what it looks like it means? 'Cause it looks like you're saying you, and all of us, are "dorian gays" - whatever a "dorian gay" is.

And considering one of the links in those words was to someplace called "gaystation", I'm pretty sure I get enough of the idea to know VERY well I'm not one.

posted 04-30-2001 16:04            

i was saying that people's unwillingness
to internalize the ugliness, to love the
beauty as well as the ugliness of humanity
while earnestly trying to better humanity
is, in short, gay. and that we all
collectively paint the ugly picture of
humanity we see before us.

posted 04-30-2001 17:18            

a boy eats a pickle to see if he's gay.

some of the other reviews are funny, too.

posted 04-30-2001 20:26            

I have no idea what sort of odd internal dialogue led you to progress from the first face to the last over a three hour period: all I know is it had nothing to do with me, since I had no more contact with you elsewhere than I did here.

Regarding your belabored protests, I was actually quite familiar with the premise of The Picture Of Dorian Gray. This familiarity, however, was no adequate preparation for the Sisyphean labors inherent in parsing your tortured syntax.

In short, my advice to you is this: eschew obfuscation.

posted 04-30-2001 20:46           

HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD??

CYD=BORING. LIKE HARDCORE BORING.

posted 04-30-2001 22:49            

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Originally posted by Cyd...originally quoted by Jimbo:
All of this is well and good, and helps me to focus my energy on projects which are likely to better the collective self portrait all of us dorian gays paint of humanity; instead of focusing it on bellyaching about having not even a prospect for a girlfriend

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I want to say that I had a very difficult time understanding this as well.

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Originally posted by Cyd
I realize that sometimes my wording can be obscure and difficult to understand.
However, this is usually because i am referencing something without fully explaining the reference for someone who isn't familiar with it.

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Yes.

quote:

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Originally ranted by cyd:
so, without further ado, for those too
lazy to click on the link i posted,

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Ok. Links are an afterthought. People have to still be interested enough after they read a post to want to go back and click on a link. If you have to click a link in order to "get" a post, then the reader is not at fault, the poster is.

Unfortunately even after clicking the links I was unable to find anything that connected the title in my mind with the...er... pun.

I also think that there are quite a few people who "love" the ugly side of humanity....or should I say what "I" consider the "ugly" side of humanity. Unfortunately the idea's of "ugly" and "pretty" are different for every person. What I see as "ugly" can be loved by another person. For proof of this look at zippy's pr0n collection... what some people find as "disgusting, bile-inducing tripe" others see as "hott sexxy masturbation material" I think that "ugly" and "pretty" follows these rules as well.

posted 04-30-2001 23:06            

im fuckin lazy ok?

posted 05-01-2001 00:52            

first, the topic of this thread should really be Cyd.grammar < Yoda.grammar, not grammar.Cyd < grammar.Yoda. I'm a CS student, so i know. yep, respect my authoratay!

second, clme said that links are an afterthought. i sincerally hope most people dont think that way when they read my posts (as rare as they are). when i write a post and include links, it's a thought out presentation that's supposed to take the reader on some sort of a journey through information on and off the penismightier website. it's a liner journey with a begining, middle, and end. when i write a post, i fully expect a reader to click on the links and examine the content there as they read the post. if the posts are left until last, and if some people dont even click the links until they decide if the text of the post was interesting enough or not, then i'm afraid that they're seriously missing out on quite a lot. why should a post on penismightier or any other e/n type website be different from a book or a movie? clearly, it's hard to express any sort of direction in a web post, whereas a movie or a book can take you wherever they want, whenever they want and you're forced to follow along. i think it's up to the reader to realize that they're not reading some text that has some interesting links on it, but are being given a story that is meant to entertain them for some period of time, and the intentions of the author should be respected for best results.

posted 05-01-2001 00:58            

in reference to your first attack, there was no
internal dialogue, i was really trying to clarify
for you the full extent of what it was i was trying
to say, from many of the levels from which i was saying
it, as i didn't know what specifically you did not
understand, since you stated what i meant just fine,
outside of an understanding of the missing "r" in gray.

so, first i gave you an overview of my hypothesis.
second, i pointed out that i was not calling you a
homosexual, then went on to say what i meant by
"dorian gay."

and lastly, i addressed my overall grammar and tried to
dispel your insinuation about my pretention. so where
are the "faces" about which you speak?

additionally, to address your second attack, if you were
familiar with who dorian gray was, and your original
take on the "parsing of my tortured syntax" was, in
spite of the fear of your own homosexuality it instilled,
correct:

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Okay, I'm less than enlightened here. Does that sentence
mean what it looks like it means? 'Cause it looks like
you're saying you, and all of us, are "dorian gays" -
whatever a "dorian gay" is.
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then what legend of sysiphus did you read where his first
intuited action immediately completed his task, though he
did not understand it?

posted 05-01-2001 00:58            

When I said that links were an after thought I am afraid I meant it. I dont beleive that most people will click on a link unless they're fairly sure it will be interesting. How do you tell this? By reading the post.

Of course... If a link is posted by zippy it WILL be interesting.

posted 05-01-2001 01:13            

ayunami rei: thank you for your well
thought out, constructive, grammatically
correct criticism.

clem: i can understand your difficulty
in understanding that sentence. there
are a lot of things being said there, and
quite minimally at that. i do, however,
often include links that flesh out my post,
and are interesting both within and without
the context of my post.

nuentor: again, that is your right.

zippy: i think you meant "if the links are
left until last," instead of "if the posts."

posted 05-01-2001 01:19            

1. Yes, you have it so right. I fear your mighty p3n15 will violate my tender anus, therefore I attack you. Uh-huh. How "insightful" of you. (Was that an epiphany?)

2. The internal dialogue was whatever prompted you to make three separate posts over the course of three hours, with no input from anyone else, which changed drastically in tone as time went by.

3. Look real fucking hard at this very page and see where you can find the very three faces that I posted. Hint: they're in the same order I posted them. Another hint: they're immediately to the right of the letters "cyd" and immediately to the left of the word "posted." Clued in yet?

4. You don't "think in broad strokes", you trip over a ladder and spill 5 gallons of semi-gloss latex on the carpet, man. It's messy, really.

posted 05-01-2001 01:29            

1) ok, yer right, yer *not* a
homophobe.

2) the posts did not change drastically
in tone. or if they did, you've failed
to point out how.

3) and i thought maybe you meant something
deeper than that i used three different
message icons. oooh, did that throw you
off?

4) and i do think in broad strokes. it's
a gemini trait. i sometimes miss the trees
for the forest. but i see that you just
wanted to twist that into an insult. you
had nothing of value to say. or no, maybe
you wanted to inform me about how my brain
works?

5) and i like how you skirted addressing the
flaw i exposed in your analogy.

posted 05-01-2001 01:51            

I much prefer public flamewars

But then I'm a homophobic, non-link-clicking, non-understanding, sarcasm-missing, non-email-using, semi-literate, redneck-named, exagerating asshole....
...who just happens to have a 10 inch cock.

Oh, and regarding this:

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Originally posted by Cyd:
people can print my posts to
wipe their ass with them as far as i care.

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You have to care at least a little. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting the things to begin with. You sure as hell wouldn't be getting defensive if you didn't care. The trick is to learn how to deal with criticism and flames. You dont start a flamewar and then say "lets continue this where I wont be so embarrased anymore". The cats out of the bag. You hang in to the end, give up, or ignore it.

I tend to hang on to the bitter end. I also frequently lose.

posted 05-01-2001 02:00         

at most simply opening the link and seeing the contents therein should give enough understanding to appreciate the post. picture salt on french fries. without salt, fries are bland. but you can't have the salt all by itself. the same applies to links. they can increase the flavor of your writing, but at the point where they take over the meal you have to order a coke to wash it all down. or something.

posted 05-01-2001 02:05            

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Originally posted by deeznuts:
if the set is ordered it is perfectly valid to say grammar.x < grammar.y. basically cyd and yoda are enumerated levels of grammar in his version rather than state information.

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posted 05-01-2001 02:05           

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Originally posted by Bitchgoddess:
Hey Jim, just do as I do, skip over Cyd's posts. He is what we used to call in high school, an art fag. Don't call me a homophobe here Cyd, cuz I'm not, my gay buddies used the same term for them. Folks who feel as if they're conveying deep thoughts and believe that they have a deeper understanding of just aboot everything. I get tired trying to read all of the flowery phrases he uses, so I just skip them. It makes me a much happier person.

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HAHAHHAHA. VERY NICE ONE BITCH. HE IS AN ART FAG1!!!