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kokinolimoneiki
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posted 06-13-2001 13:42
  
I was watching this program on the Discovery channel sister - TLC. I was amazed by this story. This couple had been trying to have a child of their own for over sixteen years. After trying the in-vitro fertilization thing for sixteen plus years, they finally had a child. w00t!!!!!!!!
Anyways, the wife barely recovered from that birth when they tried to have another one using the same methid. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T CONCEIVE ON THEIR OWN!!!! Mayhaps there is a reason for this. I mean, I guess if you have the money, power to ya, but why not adopt? Why is it so damn imperative to have your very OWN baby? Nature is a bitch, but we refuse to acknowledge that. If you cannot conceive after sixteen years, you probably weren't meant to. I dunno. Let's discuss why Americans and rich Europeans do this... Please. I never post a new topic, and the board's been pretty slow lately. I'm trying to come up with a controversy. We could also bring up abortion to counter the argument, since that, in effect, is also fucking with nature, and can be considered quite selfish. As clme says, "Discuss."------------------
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Jimbo
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posted 06-13-2001 16:16
1. Actual, using your own sticky-juices type reproduction is a biological imperative. Don't expect the desire to necessarily make sense, it's HARDWIRED into the animal. (Do you REALLY think so many people would have children if they weren't wired to want to reproduce? Fuck no. Kids are a sacrifice, one that not everybody is willing to make for no other reason than that "they make cool pets.")2. A kid is some percentage nurture, and some (definitely fucking LARGE) percentage nature - the "nature" part is something of a crapshoot anyway, that's how genetics works, but a blind adoption is a COMPLETE fucking crapshoot. Anyway, there are people who want their OWN children, not completely random children. Me personally, I fall somewhere in the middle - I like kids, and I'm willing to raise one or two of somebody else's as my own - heart, mind, and soul. But I don't JUST want somebody else's kids... I've GOT to have one or two of my own. One of these days. Hopefully... :sigh: IP: Logged |
PeterWiggin
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posted 06-13-2001 16:38
i think its kinda wak that people go through all the trouble to try and have their own kids when naturally they cant. They got fucked up fertility drugs and a whole spinoff of wak shit from that. I think they should adopt but thats just me. I can see where people would want to have thier OWN kids. But i think the nuture part is more important than the nature part. Im a firm believer that one is a product of their environment. especially in the US. Someone who is genetically passive will become agressive if put in a dog eat dog environment. granted certain things like physical ailments can be hereditary, but still, this unatural birth shit is going to lead to a scene like gattica. its just the beginning. I personally dont want kids, so i might be biased. But id much rather, if economically permitted, raise a child without parents. Maybe even adopt an older kid thats like 9 already. I mean fuck... people are too goddamn selfish these days. its like, "id rather create a new life thats my own, than help a life that already exists."
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kokinolimoneiki
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posted 06-13-2001 19:49
Jimbo - Question: What if you meet the perfect woman and you want to start your OWN family. For some odd reason, even after years of trying naturally, you cannot conceive a child. Would you resort to drugs and/or artificial means or would you adopt? That was my original question, just really badly articulated.
P.S. PeterWiggin - cool name, and I agree with you, but I do someday want children. Not too many though. That would be bad... 
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zippy
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posted 06-13-2001 20:28
i want 23.4 childredn, so that they could take care of me when i get old.most people have only one or two kids to take care of them when they get old. i plan on milking all 23.4 kids for as much as they can give me, which will then make me filthy rick edit: i'm very drunk. you fiugure out what i was trying to say [This message has been edited by zippy (edited 06-13-2001).] IP: Logged |
homerjay
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posted 06-14-2001 02:16
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Originally posted by zippy:
...i plan on milking all 23.4 kids for as much as they can give me, which will then make me filthy rick
sorry but that made me giggle like a little girl  [This message has been edited by homerjay (edited 06-14-2001).] IP: Logged |
Jimbo
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posted 06-14-2001 15:06
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Originally posted by kokinolimoneiki:
Jimbo - Question: What if you meet the perfect woman and you want to start your OWN family. For some odd reason, even after years of trying naturally, you cannot conceive a child. Would you resort to drugs and/or artificial means or would you adopt?
If drugs or in vitro had a good chance of working, drugs or in vitro is what I would do. IP: Logged |
psyci
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posted 06-14-2001 16:04
I'd do it with monkeys. There's no guilt factor involved if you both do it with monkeys. If it works, you're famous, because you had the first human-monkey baby. If it doesn't work, hey, you get to have sex with monkeys.Win-win situation. IP: Logged |
kokinolimoneiki
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posted 06-14-2001 21:23
sex with monkeys... mmmmm. yummy.
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fenomas
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posted 06-15-2001 01:13
If guilt is a problem, I read this pick-up line somewhere:It's not premarital sex if you don't plan on getting married! IP: Logged |
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