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Topic: peeing in a cup
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zaksquatch
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posted 06-19-2001 13:50
   
So, what are people's feeling on drug testing? Personally, I think it is bullshit, but somewhat advisable for someone who's job involves the safety of others. ie: Bus driver, pilot, cop, etc. HOWEVER, I personally, (even though in my old not-in-college-anymore age, I am no longer a regular drug user) would NEVER take a job that required drug testing. I think it is a total invasion of privacy and does not belong in our society. Or at least, what I would like our society to be. discuss, at length [This message has been edited by zaksquatch (edited 06-19-2001).] IP: Logged |
LaMFear
Dutch Pen - Cock sucking champ of 1999
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posted 06-19-2001 14:04
How about this:In the Netherlands, guns are illegal, and pot isn't. You americans do it the wrong way around. IP: Logged |
psyci
Gr4ph1c4l P3nn3r
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posted 06-19-2001 14:53
In Solviet Russia, road forks you!IP: Logged |
StickyLoad
Great Gobs of Cream
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posted 06-19-2001 21:28
It could be worse, we could have to shit in a cup instead of peeing in one. Drug tests don't bother me, they just waste my time because I have nothing to hide.IP: Logged |
Demon-of-Elru
TFC Bitch
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posted 06-19-2001 21:39
I think it is a waste of time and money. As long as you don't go into the job all fucked up, who cares?IP: Logged |
Clme
cake fiend
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posted 06-19-2001 22:06
But if you dont pee in a cup, you get it all over the carpet when you try to drink it.IP: Logged |
Demon-of-Elru
TFC Bitch
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posted 06-19-2001 22:16
Thats where those large dog blinders come in handy. Act like a big funnel.IP: Logged |
Clme
cake fiend
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posted 06-19-2001 22:33
Dog blinders? An elizabethan collar? wow... that may just work, as long as I stand on my head. Cool! -Chris 
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LaMFear
Dutch Pen - Cock sucking champ of 1999
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posted 06-20-2001 00:19
Now THAT's a nice piece of ass. Does she swallow?IP: Logged |
Jimbo
1 dr3w j00 4 p1ggy!
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posted 06-20-2001 05:41
1. I am proud to say that any act of urination, in a cup or otherwise, was not so much as discussed as a condition of employment at my current s00p3r-1337 tech job.2. I am honest enough to tell you that hell yes, I stayed "clean" while I was in the consideration process just in case. Yeah, drug tests are wack for ANY job other than "narcotics impound shack security officer" - pilots are allowed to get plowed in a bar off-hours, so why not toke up off-hours? - but man, there's only so much you can do on principle. Get hired FIRST, then worry about the decision to toke up or not toke up.  IP: Logged |
Bex
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posted 06-20-2001 07:57
Oddly enough, I have a key to a locked box with narcotics in it and I wasn't required to take a drug test. When I worked at a pharmaceutical company that made cardiac, cancer and arthritis meds, none of which will get you high, I had to take one. It makes no sense.Good thing I have no desire to shoot up with horse tranquilizers. -Bex IP: Logged |
outraged
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posted 06-20-2001 12:21
how can you say that drugs tests are not needed?we now live in the end times, and every step must be taken to keep us safe from the criminals and drug users that are growing in number every day. i can just see some police officer "toking up" during his shift and missing a henous crime going on write down the street. every day i hear about more drug related crimes happening, and i think that everyone should be required to get a test in order to work at any job. its too bad that programs such as dare and 'just say no' aren't around anymore. IP: Logged |
outraged
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posted 06-20-2001 12:23
YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK.I JUST READ THROUGH THE REST OF YOUR REPLIES AND I ACUTALLY GOT ILL. MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL. IP: Logged |
Bitchgoddess
battin' .500
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posted 06-20-2001 15:38
Sorry, missed that whole conversation, I was cleaning my bong. As for drug tests, well, I would like to be sure that the doctor performing surgery on me didn't get shitfaced the night before, or that the cop shooting it out with the bank robber down the street isn't on halucinogens, but for jobs other than those involving heavy equipment and life or death situations, what's the point? I had a hair follicle drug test at my last job. They cut a lock of hair from the nape of my neck, at the root. It, of course was negative, I had just gotten out of the Army for Bob's sake, I didn't know where to find any weed yet. This extensive drug test was in order for me to sell cigarettes. After the initial drug test there is no more random testing, so I of course had no reason to remain drug free after I was employed. I have never gone to work under the influence of drugs at any point in my life, and never would, so why is it necessary to know if I drink or smoke pot in my offtime? Sure alcohol gives you hangovers, and it's difficult to work under those circumstances, but they don't really seem to care if you drink, since it's legal. Pot doesn't give you a hangover, so you could very well get stoned and go to work the next day without any ill effects. If it was legal, would they still test for it? Hmmmm... IP: Logged |
Jimbo
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posted 06-20-2001 17:23
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Originally posted by Bitchgoddess:
As for drug tests, well, I would like to be sure that the doctor performing surgery on me didn't get shitfaced the night before,
... which drug tests WON'T tell you. Drug tests (maybe) tell you whether or not they got high sometime within the last MONTH - not the last few hours. Which makes them UTTERLY useless for the purposes you're discussing - particularly since you can be BLIND-ass drunk and pass a drug test... OR blind-ass toked up and pass one. Drug tests look for residue from regular usage in your system - not for current status of intoxication. Like I said, worthless. IP: Logged |
Bitchgoddess
battin' .500
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posted 06-20-2001 22:17
Yes, however, random drug tests do discourage regular use in most occupations in which they're used. Admittedly they're not infallible, nothing is though, and yes, drug tests can determine whether you're currently under the influence of drugs. How could they test for something that isn't in your system? Granted some drugs remain in your blood for some time, but most dissipate within 72 hours or so. Alcohol tests, by the way are simple to administer and give results within minutes, I've had one used on me, and seen people get busted by them (my unit had a problem with folks showing up to formation staggering for a while), believe me, they work. I don't agree with drug tests for most occupations, I think that it's an invasion of privacy, but if you have someone's life in your hands there has to be somebody checking up on you. IP: Logged |
Jimbo
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posted 06-21-2001 06:56
Drug tests do NOT test for current intoxication, they test for residue buildup. It's URINE, yo - what you're looking for is an accumulation of particular chemical by-products in the kidneys, which does NOT occur with single use - even HEAVY single use - only with regular use over a period of time.If someone hasn't smoked marijuana in more than 30 days, they could smoke up a whole fucking quarter bag right before a piss test, wander in so stoned they can't fucking see, and pass with flying colors. *ahem* Did I ever mention I worked in urinalysis for the Charleston Naval Base for my last seven months or so in the USN...? TRUST me, I've seen 'em all come and go - it's not just a matter of reading up on theory, it's a matter of KNOWING sailors that were and were not stoners and to what degree and observing them pass or fail. IP: Logged | |
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