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PrezMonty
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posted 07-22-2001 17:56     Click Here to See the Profile for PrezMonty   Click Here to Email PrezMonty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Being as behind-the-times and uninformed as I am, anyone want to explain the 'Code Red' virus thing to me? My dad's talk radio station has been blabbing about it and the "evils" of broadband connections (What, now the republicans want to keep CONNECTION SPEEDS in the stone ages?) nonstop for the past 3 days.

On a side note, anyone ever played Gauntlet Legends for '64? I'm lovin' that game.

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sigipickl
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posted 07-22-2001 23:47     Click Here to See the Profile for sigipickl   Click Here to Email sigipickl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PrezMonty:
Being as behind-the-times and uninformed as I am, anyone want to explain the 'Code Red' virus thing to me? My dad's talk radio station has been blabbing about it and the "evils" of broadband connections (What, now the republicans want to keep CONNECTION SPEEDS in the stone ages?) nonstop for the past 3 days.

Dirty details and story behind the name: http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AL20010717.html

even M$ supposedly got hit: http://www.smartguys.net/mshacked/

This worm is classic! Microsoft released a patch a month ago (MS01-033), sent out advisories, and even put a blurb on their home page about it. Anyone running IIS (like me ) should know by now to at least check M$ weekly for patches.

What is frustrating about this vulnerability, like so many other exploits in M$ software, is that it hits a service that installs by default, but 90% of the time is not used.

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deeznuts
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posted 07-23-2001 08:01     Click Here to See the Profile for deeznuts     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
the evil of broadband connections is that it's always on. on a modem, once you log out you're logged out and that's that for kiddies and h4x0rs. on the other hand when you're availible online 24/7 it gives more time to work on the box and break your way in before the ip changes and you have to start all over. it also helps the intruders that more people using high capacity connections are now using them on massively insecure machines that have not been even been given a cursory lockdown against such threats.

in short more bandwidth availibility means more stupid people to take advantage of and even people with some idea of what they are up against are at a disadvantage because of their constant exposure. the number of victims with constant connection and bandwidth to burn has made things like mddos attacks possible. it also gives people looking to do breakins on more secure sites (like govt. databases, perhaps) more places to hide while they do their work.

that's probably what gets a radio show worked up about broadband. you're exposing government and industry to increased security threats in exchange for downloading files a little bit faster. and let's be honest; these people probably aren't happy about the contents of those files you're downloading anyway.

[This message has been edited by deeznuts (edited 07-23-2001).]

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LaMFear
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posted 07-23-2001 08:33     Click Here to See the Profile for LaMFear   Click Here to Email LaMFear     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Maybe broadband ISP's should start installing Zone Alarm as a service on PC's they connect.

Some ISP's already block most traffic under port 1024. This is usally so that people can't run servers, but is also blocks a lot of services that can be dangerous for the average user.

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Jimbo
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posted 07-23-2001 09:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
If you don't want it "always on" then it doesn't have to be - it's not exactly rocket science to right-click the connection indicator in the system tray and select "disable local area network connection", then do the same to re-enable it the next time you want to use it.

Me personally, I run a pretty tight firewall so I don't bother - but that's what I did before I installed the firewall.

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LaMFear
Dutch Pen - Cock sucking champ of 1999
posted 07-23-2001 12:44     Click Here to See the Profile for LaMFear   Click Here to Email LaMFear     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Jimbo: true.

Also, the hibernate funcion in Win2k and ME works very well from what I've seen.
My mom's PC (win2k) boots up in under 30 secs when she uses hibernate. She uses it all the time.

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eod
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posted 07-23-2001 13:56     Click Here to See the Profile for eod   Click Here to Email eod     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Those who cannot right click (I can tell you there are many many folks who cannot grasp the concept of the right click) you can always do the old yank and pull.

Just unplug the fucker!! Jesus christ..

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nuentoter
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posted 07-23-2001 17:34     Click Here to See the Profile for nuentoter   Click Here to Email nuentoter     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
actually its not very hard to hook up an on/off toggle switch to it so its right on the front of your comp, hooked up with a LED.

for all the 1337 out there

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deeznuts
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posted 07-23-2001 20:37     Click Here to See the Profile for deeznuts     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
some points:

!) the problem with people with no sk1lls is that they have no damn skills. they don't know they have a problem to begin with and if they have heard bad stories to give them a second thought about it, they probably have no idea what to actually do about it.

!!) hmmm... didn't know about sys tray connection icon. shows i'm a little behind the times but i'm still on win95 for my windows partition and my old lan connection never had an icon. it required releasing my ip manually from winipcfg or else changing the network settings and rebooting. i guess they've fixed that up in the newer revisions. still, that doesn't help when you're downloading a large file and you won't be around for a while. you can either sit and watch 650mb of an iso tick away or allow that your computer will have some unsupervised time.

3) hibernate is only useful if you're leaving the computer alone. it doesn't help if you have a download running or if you need to do something on your computer that does not require connectivity.

iv) firewalls are nice, but it comes down to a question of who's going to run them. tards won't, and probably won't even know what one is. if isps run them, the only way to make it effective at all would be an elephant gun - blocking all the service ports to prevent someone from doing something stupid. that still wouldn't stop everything, since client exploits like irc worms and ie bugs would still work. and once the hack is in place it's just a matter of time before a couple hundred million requests leveled at the target site.

alright, start picking this apart now.

technology is our friend.

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LonMabonJovi
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posted 07-23-2001 22:48     Click Here to See the Profile for LonMabonJovi   Click Here to Email LonMabonJovi     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I really can't say enough good things about ZoneAlarm. It will be nice to go through and see who the frequent fliers have been.

I have been doing a little tech support over at a friends house ... a youngish mother with a cable connection and an AOL overlay because it is far superior (natch).

Lon: So, do you use a firewall?
WayOL: Heh, what's a firewall?
Lon: (explains)
WayOL: (blank stare)
Lon: (breaks it down a little)
WayOL: (drools)
Lon: (smiles turns around and rolls a fat one before going to the kitchen for a shot of rum)

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