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Demon-of-Elru
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posted 08-25-2001 08:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Demon-of-Elru   Click Here to Email Demon-of-Elru     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
2 of my friends got a virus worm thing that disguises itself as an MP3. When you "play" it, it infects other MP3s and JPGs, turning them into vbscripts with the worm code [ or so I gather ]. I'm curious, is this a new thing or an old thing?

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Jimbo
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posted 08-25-2001 08:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
More of a "bullshit" thing. If the extension is .mp3 (as opposed to a SirCam-style ".mp3.pif" or some such), you can't get a virus from double-clicking it.

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Demon-of-Elru
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posted 08-25-2001 13:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Demon-of-Elru   Click Here to Email Demon-of-Elru     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Couldnt the code be written into it? Like images [ or so I'm told ]?

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Jimbo
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posted 08-25-2001 17:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
No.

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Jimbo
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posted 08-25-2001 17:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
:: relenting, explaining why not ::

Images and MP3s aren't executed. Instead, they are opened with "helper applications" that simply interpret the data.

Even if you stuck a virus into an MP3, it wouldn't ever do anything but make a nasty-sounding fart in the music when Winamp (or Media Player) got to the virus code - because nothing in the file is ever executed.

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Chess Piece Face
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posted 08-25-2001 18:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Chess Piece Face   Click Here to Email Chess Piece Face     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo:
:: relenting, explaining why not ::

Wuss.

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fenomas
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posted 08-25-2001 23:34     Click Here to See the Profile for fenomas   Click Here to Email fenomas     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hah. This shows what Jimbo knows. He is blindly assuming that Microsoft won't make a wildly popular mp3 player that includes macros and can write to the registry. Perhaps the virus writers are just thinking ahead.

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Jimbo
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posted 08-25-2001 23:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Actually, blame that concept on the Mac - if you run a Macintrash, data files CAN be infected with executable virus code, because the OS allows for standard "hooks" within the file system that cause data files to execute code when opened.

Thanks, Jooky!

Anyway, at the moment there is no provision within Media Player for running macros embedded in an MP3 - and thankfully, even if Mickeysoft DID put such a provision in place, it would actually break the MPG and MP3 standards, although presumably they could find some way to tuck something nasty away in an AVI without breaking standards for non-MS apps, since AVI is an encapsulated format anyway.

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