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Topic: Another one for you Audiogalaxy bastards.
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Clme
cake fiend
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posted 01-25-2002 17:11
   
http://zebulun.org/cgi-bin/article.cgi?articleid=1011891190 I hated the company when they did this once before. Now I vow that I shall never download this program ever. IP: Logged |
Pierced
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posted 01-26-2002 09:51
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shir0t
PenIs
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posted 01-26-2002 12:44
Since I've got a Mac my audiogalaxy is 100% unaffiliated hack. They've also got a linux version (precompiled) which I assume is spyware free. IP: Logged |
Dave
Almighty lord of relevant links
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posted 01-26-2002 12:56
your assumption is wrong.here's an article from last year about spyware in limewire. IP: Logged |
InThrees
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posted 01-26-2002 12:57
Last night I was surfing with my girlfriend, and a site we visited installed that fucking comet cursor crap without so much as asking my permission. I first noticed the attempt when some .tmp file tried to access the net, which my firewall picked up on, and asked me about. So of course, not being intimately familiar with any .tmp files, I deny permission. The next thing I see is a dialog thanking me for choosing to install the comet cursor, and informing me that it will happen 'at the next available opportunity'.I finally ended up letting it install, then uninstalling it, then using ad-aware to REALLY uninstall it... since doing it from control panel doesn't really accomplish much. Bullshitty spyware cack, I hate you all. -3 IP: Logged |
KetchupRAT
Daddy can I have a hug?
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posted 01-26-2002 13:44
Does Ad Aware really work?IP: Logged |
InThrees
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posted 01-26-2002 14:19
Yes, it really does work, and I highly recommend it. www.lavasoft.de I think is one of their sites, I forget. Lavasoft is the company, however, so a google search for 'ad aware' should yield a lavasoft link.Newest version is 5.62 I think, get it now! -3 IP: Logged |
KetchupRAT
Daddy can I have a hug?
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posted 01-26-2002 14:25
I got it from download.com, and I was rather disappointed. Only 5 identified files, all cookies. Bummer, dood, I was hoping I would have like 800 processes etc.etc.etc.IP: Logged |
Jimbo
1 dr3w j00 4 p1ggy!
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posted 01-26-2002 14:33
quote:
Originally posted by Dave:
[B]your assumption is wrong.
Ummm... is there supposed to be something about spyware or AudioGalaxy in here?  edit: your other Slashdot link was also b0rk3d. [This message has been edited by Jimbo (edited 01-26-2002).] IP: Logged |
Dave
Almighty lord of relevant links
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posted 01-26-2002 15:01
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/173350.html also has basically the same information. in summary: limewire, grokster, bearshare, kazaa and now audiogalaxy all have spyware in them. (most of the unix progs, like limewire, grokster and bearshare try to dump them on you as cookies and ad programs.)I don't know why, but every link on /. has started "borking" these last few minutes. i think it's just slashcode vomiting -- i can't login to my user account and all links that aren't off-site are fuxx0r3d. wait an hour and try those links again, if you're really interested in the slashdot articles (IMO, usually it's all shit on /., but if yo read the comments at 4 or 5, you can get some real gems.) ------------------
"I steal teeth from kittens to make necklaces for Satan." IP: Logged |
Clme
cake fiend
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posted 01-27-2002 00:43
When you download ad-aware, make sure you also download "refupdate 1.3" and check for new definitions every few weeks.Damn... this is sounding more and more like my old virus scanners... Then again, I've known viruses that were less annoying than this shit. IP: Logged |
InThrees
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posted 01-27-2002 01:40
Indeed, Clme, indeed.You know, I still I don't see the legal distinction between virus and spyware... can anyone help me? If it's illegal to sneak a packet sniffer or keystroke recorder (what exactly is VX2, anyway, other than a glorified keyboard recorder?), then how is it not illegal to sneak spyware in? Isn't it illegal for me to enter your home and install wiretaps? -3 IP: Logged |
oneitnsloth
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posted 01-27-2002 02:59
legal fuzziness
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the realm of the 'net.-except where media and copyrights are concerned. fuckers. hey! i made a haiku...i think... i ran ad-aware, i had 28 processes, and about 16 of them were shady. ------------------
everyone would be happier if they submitted to weekly government-administered enemas...including me. IP: Logged |
Jimbo
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posted 01-27-2002 09:38
Dude, ANYTHING that shows as a process under AdAware is shady.Oh, and P33T - you "consent" to having those packet sniffers and key-loggers installed on your b0x when you click "I Agree." That's the difference. IP: Logged |
InThrees
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posted 01-27-2002 12:19
No, Ad Aware identifies ALL running processes, so some of them will be firewall, explorer, Ad Aware itself, etc. It's the red ones it identifies as spyware that are shady. (sounds like it's about time for Jim to run the mofo, huh? haven't done it in a while? =p )And Jim... I think them claiming that I 'agreed' by clicking wouldn't stand up either. If you install a distro with a user agreement and it has a virus, that doesn't matter. And returning to my earlier parallel: If Clme hires me to say, rewire a few outlets in his house, and we have a written contract, it's still not legal for me to bug his house (I hope) - even if I have it in writing that I'm allowed to enter the premises. Right? -3 IP: Logged |
Clme
cake fiend
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posted 01-27-2002 12:36
Mine listed 25 processes, but it didn't list any spyware processes. The only processes it takes the trouble to identify by name are the spyware ones  Anyway... if you gave me a contract to sign that SAID you could bug my house, then you may have a case. Of course, I think there are special laws against that, but we'll deal with tha another time. There is normally a little loophole in any EULA that states they can install anything they want along with your program, and if you click on that, there aren't any special laws to protect you at this time. For some reason they dont consider ad/spyware to be a virus. IP: Logged |
Jimbo
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posted 01-27-2002 13:07
Yeah, actually I was just thinking of the IDENTIFIED processes... actually, I ran AdAware just day before yesterday, although I do tend to go months in between running it. (If you don't install shady crap, you don't get adware...)And yeah, that's the whole point PeeT - the EULA's generally tell you EXACTLY what the adware will do. It's not analagous to giving Clem a piece of paper saying that he has access to the inside of your home, and then him abusing the privilege by tapping your phone - it's analagous to Clem handing you a contract that states that you want him to come into your house and tap your phones, and then you signing it without reading it. VERY few of the spyware products violate their EULA - and no, there's very little legal protection against your signing your rights away to ANYONE, if you sign of your own volition. Just ask anybody who's been divorced. IP: Logged |
InThrees
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posted 01-27-2002 14:54
Then we must go incognito and firebomb their software labs, HA-HA-HA! -3 IP: Logged |
KetchupRAT
Daddy can I have a hug?
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posted 01-27-2002 15:54
You ever wonder if Ad-Aware is just a product of, say, DoubleClick?"YES, your spyware has been removed from your system! Continue surfing inter-net!" IP: Logged |
Clme
cake fiend
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posted 01-27-2002 16:24
Well, spyware (other than cookie types) is already blocked from going out by my firewall. Anytime something I haven't given rights to attempts to go out I get a little pop-up window asking if I want it to or not.Thats actually how I first learned about spyware, since there were two or three programs that kept taking all my processor time and slowing my computer to a halt whenever my firewall blocked them. IP: Logged |
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