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Duke
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posted 01-29-2002 15:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke   Click Here to Email Duke     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
FuckShitBitch

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KetchupRAT
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posted 01-29-2002 16:36     Click Here to See the Profile for KetchupRAT   Click Here to Email KetchupRAT     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
On a nearly-completely unrelated topic, I hear that FOX has decided to cancel Family Guy. Sorry if this is old news...

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xclusive069
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posted 01-29-2002 17:14     Click Here to See the Profile for xclusive069   Click Here to Email xclusive069     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i up'd some episodes to the pENFTP

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eod
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posted 01-29-2002 18:04     Click Here to See the Profile for eod   Click Here to Email eod     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KetchupRAT:
On a nearly-completely unrelated topic, I hear that FOX has decided to cancel Family Guy. Sorry if this is old news...


Sigh.. I figured that'd fucking happen.. They continue to get cancelled over and over. We have every episode and I am a bit sick of watching the same works of art over and over..


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xclusive069
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posted 01-29-2002 19:11     Click Here to See the Profile for xclusive069   Click Here to Email xclusive069     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
speaking of works of art,

eod,
you DO realize that i uploaded plenty of macgyver and a knight rider, KITT VS KARR episode


maybe you missed it,,,

BTW

speaking of QAULITY cartoons

i just uploaded some BRAK
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YOU CANNOT FUCK WITH BRAK

brak is the best sound/cartoon ever,,,funniest of all time

nuff said

just hearing the guys voice makes me fucking laugh harder than south park

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Starr66
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posted 01-29-2002 19:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Starr66   Click Here to Email Starr66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Granted, Brak and Spaceghost are both exceptional cartoons...but what about Ren and Stimpy? They fucking rock.

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eod
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posted 01-30-2002 12:42     Click Here to See the Profile for eod   Click Here to Email eod     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Starr66:
Granted, Brak and Spaceghost are both exceptional cartoons...but what about Ren and Stimpy? They fucking rock.

Ren and Stimpy are so so.. Really when you look at the wonderful plot/humor/hidden references within cartoons like Family Guy, Simpsons, and even futurama.. Things like Ren and Stimpy just don't seem as funny as they used to.

Is it me or is Futurama a total hit and miss cartoon. Sometimes it is funny and sometimes it is just boring as fuck.

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Jimbo
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posted 01-30-2002 13:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimbo   Click Here to Email Jimbo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Dude it's not just you, Futurama is TOTALLY hit and miss. Unfortunately it's miss as often as it is hit.

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oneitnsloth
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posted 01-30-2002 14:15     Click Here to See the Profile for oneitnsloth   Click Here to Email oneitnsloth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
TV = ART???

the hell i say...

i think television definitely has more potential for greatness than is being used at the moment. i will agree and say that shows like the simpsons are doing a better job of using the power of television than the majority of what's out there, but i think there is a lack of good programming...too much of it is mindless drivel.

think about it, television reaches into pretty much everyone's home in the united states and many homes around the world, and what do "we" do with it? produce mindless sitcoms and cartoons that will take a passive aggressive jab at social and poltical goings-on every once in a while. people watch it and think "gee, that's funny cause it's ironic," or "gee that's funny cause it's true." and don't act because of it, or in spite of it. they sit waiting for more entertainment to be served to them....

until the PUBLIC airwaves are in the control of the PUBLIC, television will continue to feed us propaganda which the masses will devour without question. the internet is another great example of enormous potential for subversion of the status quo. along wiht this it has the power to nurture ideas and get the word out about movements. i think more people will turn to it for self-expression when all "traditional" means of communication have been exhausted.

i had these kinds of opinions before reading culture jam. and i don't necessarily agree with all of his ideas...but...reading it only aided in my understanding of the problems in the media. too fewpeople have too much control over what we do and think. no one can claim to be uninfluenced by media unless they live in the wilderness amongst the trees and animals.

blah blah blah....i'm soooo smart...blah blah blah listen to me cause i talk a lot....guh...

read culture jam by kalle lasn..it's a bit preachy and a bit idealistic, but worth the read if some of what i said makes sense.
this link is around here on penIs somewhere i think, but here it is anyway: adbusters

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(edit #2 for punctuation, the bit about the internet, and adbusters link and because i am not perfect)
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everyone would be happier if they submitted to weekly government-administered enemas...including me.

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Duke
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posted 01-30-2002 14:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke   Click Here to Email Duke     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I can't stand King of the Hill. Somebody please syndicate reruns of the Transformers.

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eod
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posted 01-30-2002 14:37     Click Here to See the Profile for eod   Click Here to Email eod     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oneitnsloth:
TV = ART???

the hell i say...

i think television definitely has more potential for greatness than is being used at the moment. i will agree and say that shows like the simpsons are doing a better job of using the power of television than the majority of what's out there, but i think there is a lack of good programming...too much of it is mindless drivel.

think about it, television reaches into pretty much everyone's home in the united states and many homes around the world, and what do "we" do with it? produce mindless sitcoms and cartoons that will take a passive aggressive jab at social and poltical goings-on every once in a while. people watch it and think "gee, that's funny cause it's ironic," or "gee that's funny cause it's true." and don't act because of it, or in spite of it. they sit waiting for more entertainment to be served to them....

until the PUBLIC airwaves are in the control of the PUBLIC, television will continue to feed us propaganda which the masses will devour without question. the internet is another great example of enormous potential for subversion of the status quo. along wiht this it has the power to nurture ideas and get the word out about movements. i think more people will turn to it for self-expression when all "traditional" means of communication have been exhausted.

i had these kinds of opinions before reading culture jam. and i don't necessarily agree with all of his ideas...but...reading it only aided in my understanding of the problems in the media. too fewpeople have too much control over what we do and think. no one can claim to be uninfluenced by media unless they live in the wilderness amongst the trees and animals.

blah blah blah....i'm soooo smart...blah blah blah listen to me cause i talk a lot....guh...

read culture jam by kalle lasn..it's a bit preachy and a bit idealistic, but worth the read if some of what i said makes sense.
this link is around here on penIs somewhere i think, but here it is anyway: adbusters

(edit #1 for more words)
(edit #2 for punctuation, the bit about the internet, and adbusters link and because i am not perfect)



Yawn.. I think you'll find that people who read pen are WELL aware of this. Your post might actually have some effect in the "The Chamber" forum or Survivor Forums..

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oneitnsloth
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posted 01-30-2002 16:46     Click Here to See the Profile for oneitnsloth   Click Here to Email oneitnsloth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
well i'm sure that a majority of the folks who read pen are aware of it, i still felt the need to say it...there might be some who aren't...

i just got a little fired up...i tend to do that when people talk about television...eh...

did you really need to quote the whole thing?...
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eod
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posted 01-30-2002 17:08     Click Here to See the Profile for eod   Click Here to Email eod     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oneitnsloth:
well i'm sure that a majority of the folks who read pen are aware of it, i still felt the need to say it...there might be some who aren't...

i just got a little fired up...i tend to do that when people talk about television...eh...

did you really need to quote the whole thing?...



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KetchupRAT
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posted 01-30-2002 17:14     Click Here to See the Profile for KetchupRAT   Click Here to Email KetchupRAT     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oneitnsloth:
until the PUBLIC airwaves are in the control of the PUBLIC, television will continue to feed us propaganda which the masses will devour without question.

Aye comrade! I will bring good news home to Rodina!

Private airways do that too. But we pay them to.

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doomy304
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posted 01-30-2002 17:49     Click Here to See the Profile for doomy304   Click Here to Email doomy304     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Personally, I don't watch enough TV to really care either way. And the stuff I do watch is meaningless drivel (Price is Right, for example), but who gives a fuck. I watch 'cause it's fun, and if I want to have deep philosophical ponderous thoughts, I can do it on my own time. As for whether the meaningless drivel influences me at all, whether negatively or positively... *shrug* It probably does. But when it comes to the "big issues" or whatever, the stuff where it MATTERS if I'm influenced, I don't have strong enough opinions for it to be an issue. I prefer to sit back on my lazy ass and watch the junk, because if I want to have opinions/beliefs/whatever of my own (which I do), I can go places other than TV to do so. Such as inside of my own head.

Now why do I feel like I'm just ASKING for a flame?

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oneitnsloth
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posted 01-30-2002 17:56     Click Here to See the Profile for oneitnsloth   Click Here to Email oneitnsloth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
that didn't seem very flame provoking at all...

quote:
originally posted by doomy304:
Now why do I feel like I'm just ASKING for a flame?

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doomy304
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posted 01-30-2002 18:05     Click Here to See the Profile for doomy304   Click Here to Email doomy304     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
It did when it first popped into my head, and then while I was writing it, and then after I got done I looked back and was like "wait... that really wasn't that bad... ahh what the hell."

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Starr66
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posted 01-30-2002 19:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Starr66   Click Here to Email Starr66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eod:
Ren and Stimpy are so so.. Really when you look at the wonderful plot/humor/hidden references within cartoons like Family Guy, Simpsons, and even futurama.. Things like Ren and Stimpy just don't seem as funny as they used to.

Is it me or is Futurama a total hit and miss cartoon. Sometimes it is funny and sometimes it is just boring as fuck.


Futurama better than R&S? WTF? aren't you american dude? give me a break....Yes, the Simpsons are comparable to ren and stimpy, but futur-fucking-ama? come on....Oh, and family guy is ok...

*FLAME ME NOW*

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eod
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posted 01-30-2002 19:09     Click Here to See the Profile for eod   Click Here to Email eod     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Starr66:
Futurama better than R&S? WTF? aren't you american dude? give me a break....Yes, the Simpsons are comparable to ren and stimpy, but futur-fucking-ama? come on....Oh, and family guy is ok...

*FLAME ME NOW*


Family Guy and Simpsons are far fucking better than Ren and Stimpy..

Futurama is about the same unless it is one of those rare "decent" episodes then futurama is better.

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Starr66
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posted 01-30-2002 19:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Starr66   Click Here to Email Starr66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Sorry dude, i'm still gonna have to disagree here...As i said, The Simpsons is COMPARABLE, but even family guy on its funniest episode doesn't touch the genius behind ren and stimpy. Futurama is absolute garbage (unless theres one of those very rare funny episodes) and isn't anywhere close.

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doomy304
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posted 01-30-2002 19:51     Click Here to See the Profile for doomy304   Click Here to Email doomy304     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My vote: Simpsons/Family Guy over Ren & Stimpy ANY DAY.

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jumper42
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posted 01-30-2002 19:53     Click Here to See the Profile for jumper42   Click Here to Email jumper42     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
family guy rivals the simpsons and ren and stimpy stop being funny after they quit playing the game, "Don't Wiz On The Electric Fence."

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Starr66
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posted 01-30-2002 20:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Starr66   Click Here to Email Starr66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I suppose Ren & Stimpy is more of, shall we say..."an acquired taste" Its WAY less mainstream than its competitors, therefore the best episodes have probably been missed by the majority...

Or at least that's what i'm going to keep telling myself. i think its great.

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KetchupRAT
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posted 01-30-2002 20:26     Click Here to See the Profile for KetchupRAT   Click Here to Email KetchupRAT     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The reason behind the Ren and Stimpy ... fuck up... was that the control of the show was taken away from the person who made the show (Spumco.com is the guy's site, they have a cartoon there the Goddamned George Liquor show) by Viacom [who pwns nickelodeon]. So many parents complained, they kicked out the russkies (i think they were russians), and hired staff that didn't make people as sick.

Sven Hoek, the episode jumper is referring to, was one of Spumco's episodes...

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Starr66
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posted 01-30-2002 20:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Starr66   Click Here to Email Starr66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
R&S "went to shit" when John K. lost control of the show and Bill West got it. (VERY simply put)

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